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And if you don't think citizens will perform "vigilante background checks" and start howling about *something* then you obviously haven't been working with vulnerable/underserved populations.
A list isn't a terrible idea, just have it maintained by social service/mental health groups so there's some level of records privacy for individuals instead of it being a public free-for-all of context-free conclusion-jumping when a camper (shockingly) doesn't have a crystal clean record.
City Hall is going to learn this one the hard way. At the expense of another camper or neighborhood resident. This current approach to camping will not/can not end well. It just won't.
This is why someone should have a list of campers & do background checks.
I have no idea if a list of campers on public land counts as something required for public record law. If not, then I think Mitchell's got the right idea -- the government needs to maintain a list for its own use (sex offenders, size compliance, mental health needs, etc.) but that doesn't mean it has to be publically available for yutzes like me to review.
If the assertion is correct, however, then I think the city needs to lay some more legal groundwork before progressing. (For example, making sure that an ex post facto designation of the property as an encampment is legal.)
Does Chris or anyone else have any authority whatsoever for saying that a person attacked by a camper could plausibly sue PPB/Portland for essentially "failure to roust?"
The real reason why? Because they assume the homeless are criminals. Just to let you know, criminals, for the most part, are in jail. Poor people are on the street. No reason to increase their misery.
Camping is not permanent. The campers are looking for housing. Until they do, they should be allowed to have a secure place to sleep. Perhaps the campgrounds will be permanent, so there will always be a place for a homeless person to sleep safely, whoever they may be.
If you want to not have the homeless camp in your neighborhood, you could always invite them into your home. That's what I do.
Also, I had the opportunity to visit Dignity Village last month for a work-related issue and I was shocked at the conditions there. Those people are not "transitioning" back into the workforce, they have set up shacks and have no intention of ever leaving. Most lived in squalor, some were hoarding and the grounds were absolutely filthy. Don't believe me? Just take a visit there and see for yourself. I seriously don't know why the Health Department hasn't been called on that place.
Dignity Village is not a shining example of anything…
Yeah, there's no reason whatsoever why the Overlook Neighborhood might want the names of these campers, at the very least.
Homeless criminal attempts to evade police by ramming car: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.s…
Homeless couple doing the "bump-ugly" across the street from a playground: http://northparkblocks.org/2015/08/its-abo…
More homeless sex in public: http://northparkblocks.org/2015/08/public-…
Homeless accused of murder:
Homeless intimidating citizens on Springwater Corridor: http://koin.com/2016/01/15/springwater-cor…
My point in all of this? Not all of these people are families down on their luck. Some are criminals; it's just a reality. I think if the city is going to permit these tracts of taxpayer land to be used as homeless camps, then the residents have every right to ask for names. These camps are on our dime now, and I don't think it's too much to ask that there aren't wanted/convicted criminals living there.
I'm sure he just wants to ensure that everybody's happy, including himself and his neighbors with heat, and food. Their survival counts too! And they truly cannot survive knowing that somebody's taking advantage of their generosity by sleeping next to the freeway.
Since every homeowner has to have his name in some database somewhere, it only stands to reason that the city should compile and publish a list of these homeless people too. It's perfectly equal!!
And as everyone knows, the law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.
Way to go, Overlook.
While, yes, you are correct, homeowners--but not guests, family members, housemates, etc--contact information can be publicly found and checked against the various registries, the burden of conducting a massive background check on all of the "housed" residents in the Overlook Neighborhood is MUCH higher than the burden of running background checks on the 30 residents of Hazelnut Grove (one of whom works for me, by the way, and he passed his City of Portland background check with flying colors: https://www.gofundme.com/xphwhr44).
In other words, it would take you about 1-2 hours and maybe a $60 subscription to an online background check website to "vet" the residents at HG. If the HG residents wanted to background check you, they'd have to be VERY savvy and/or hire a private investigator.
I've about had it with some of you Overlook folk. I spend quite a bit of time at Hazelnut Grove. I'd encourage you to do so yourself before getting all NIMBY "oh the scary campers" on them.
Any comment (excuse-making) on that tidbit of information?