This makes me happier than the news that the SF Giants are joining the “It Gets Better” Project: the president of the officially-designated hate group Concerned Women for America was watching American Idol when Google Chrome/It Gets Better ad aired. Penny Nance scolded Fox on her blog:
Thank you for cleaning up the Viagra commercials Fox, but PLEASE what’s with the new tolerance for homosexuals campaign disguised as anti-bullying? Bullying is wrong. It is wrong for any reason. Apparently, American Idol with the help of Woody from Disney’s Toy Story, thinks that my 4th grader needs to be fully aware of the plight of teens who view themselves as “gay.” I am sorry, but he doesn’t even know about heterosexual sex yet. Can you give me some room here? I am ticked because I feel tricked. Fox blew it last night. The point is parents felt secure in allowing our entire families watch this show. They lured us into a false sense of security and broke trust with us last night.
A few thoughts… after the jump.
First: a fourth grader who “doesn’t know” about heterosexual sex? Is she raising that kid in a skinner box in her basement and only letting him out to watch American Idol?
Second: The Google Chrome/”It Gets Better” ad doesn’t promote or discuss or campaign for homosexual sex. It acknowledges the existence of LGBT people and LGBT kids and gives those LGBT kids hope for their futures. Acknowledging the existence of LGBT people does not raise awareness of the specifics of gay sex anymore than acknowledging the existence of heterosexuals raises awareness of the specifics of heterosexual sex. This is a popular argument among haters like Nance: Talking about gay people = talking about buttfucking! But talking about straight people ≠ talking about twatfucking. Because straight relationships are not defined by sex. Straight relationships are about love and commitment and family and big fancy weddings and Jesus! But gay people? We’re not about any of those things. We’re about buttfucking.
Third: Mission accomplished.
The primary goal of the IGB campaign was to reach LGBT kids who are being bullied by their peers and their families. LGBT kids are four times likelier to attempt suicide—unless their parents are hostile. LGBT kids whose parents are hostile are eight times likelier to attempt suicide. The bullying and hostility and rejection too many LGBT kids are subjected to by their own families is by far the most destructive kind of bullying. And those kids—kids with parents like Nance—are the ones who most need to find their way to www.itgetsbetter.org.
Now I don’t know if Nance’s son is gay, bi, or trans, but if he is, he needs to know more than most that it can get better for him too, that there’s hope for his future, and that the adult world isn’t entirely populated by hateful shits like his mother. He needs to know that there are a lot of people out there rooting for him: lesbian dairy farmers, trans porn stars, gay doctors, Woody—even the President of the United States.
And if Nance’s son finds his way to www.itgetsbetter.org—maybe not now, maybe in a year or two (I knew for sure that I was gay by the time I was in the seventh grade)—”It Gets Better” videos won’t just give him hope for his own future. They’ll also give him hope his family’s future too. There are a ton of videos at www.itgetsbetter.org created by LGBT adults whose families were hostile when they first came out but whose families now love and accept them. So if Nance’s son is gay—and here’s hoping—and finds his way to the “It Gets Better” website, he’ll hear from moms and dads who used to feel the same way his mother does now but who grew and changed. He’ll meet moms and dads who now reject anti-gay bigotry, not their gay children.
Nance’s son was always our target demo. Again, we don’t know if he’s gay. But he might be and, if he is, he needs to hear from us. And the Google Chrome/”It Gets Better” campaign has helped us reach him and millions more like him.
And one day, Penny, if it turns out that your son is gay, and if the “It Gets Better” Project helps him survive his last years under your roof, you’ll thank us—the tens of thousands of people who’ve made videos for the “It Gets Better” Project, Google, Woody, everyone—for helping to save your son’s life.
We can only hope that more anti-gay bigots hear your message and tell all of their friends about how horrible tolerance is. Then their kids will hear it too.
I think Mr Louis CK summarizes why the ‘Have to tell my Kid’ tact is sort of a silly argument against marriage equality http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll33ztG3…
Am not an expert on the subject, neither a full time connoisseur, but this lady is wrong and she goes out of the tangent with the issue here.
To me personally, it would be the same, as if I would say: “I saw yesterday a show about a heterosexual couple with my gay family and our 4 child`s, and we were horrified by it, and now we have to explain to the kids that there are straight people in the world and what they are” – am just changing, flipping the scenario – But is essentially the same, and about the same. Civil Rights.
To me all the “genders” (sorry for the use of a not better fitting word) – gay, bi, bi-curios, has sex with gay but romantic relations only with bi etc, which are all valid- of sexuality go fine with me and with many many many people as well, more than one cares to admit, sadly,but the fun* living the life and enjoying it part begins when LGTB people start to treat themselves with respect, and are treated by others with respect, too. Which is why a campaign like this helps and is most awesome. Most Heterosexual people don´t like seeing Gay people being harassed or treated with less respect either. It´s just normal and natural to be in the same level of social treatment.
It seems as we as a whole still are in the 50`s with this thing and it´s frustrating even for non-gay people. Give em their rights to their full extent and grow up as a person. There´s always the psychiatrist if you feel disturbed by LGTB.
By instance, the lady who wrote that should be at the psychiatrist instead of that gay kid somewhere who is getting bullied and confused by his wrong minded environment. Not fair. It´s the other way around. That´s part of my opinion.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong… and I suspect that you know it. If not, you’re being very intellectually dishonest.
Sex or sex awareness of any kind should not be pushed on a child – ever. Your ad is very subversive because it purports to be about bullying – but it’s not. It’s about pushing the homosexual agenda much more than about bullying.
If a child is unaware of sex and sexual mores at 4th grade level, kudos to the child and the parents of the child – it means that he or she has not been indoctrinated with propaganda… neither pro or anti homosexual propaganda. You are certainly not within your rights to usurp the
duties of a parent with regard to sex education.
But I understand where you’re coming from… “expose them to the homosexual lifestyle while they’re young” is probably pretty close to your true intention. And then you mask it inside a bigger issue – bullying. That is underhanded and wrong.
No right thinking person condones bullying of any kind. And no right thinking person condones discrimination against any group, including homosexuals.
But there’s a right way and a wrong way to teach values to children, and subversive propaganda is NOT one of them. Shame…
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong… and I suspect that you know it. If not, you’re being very intellectually dishonest.
Sex or sex awareness of any kind should not be pushed on a child – ever. Your ad is very subversive because it purports to be about bullying – but it’s not. It’s about pushing the homosexual agenda much more than about bullying.
If a child is unaware of sex and sexual mores at 4th grade level, kudos to the child and the parents of the child – it means that he or she has not been indoctrinated with propaganda… neither pro or anti homosexual propaganda. You are certainly not within your rights to usurp the
duties of a parent with regard to sex education.
But I understand where you’re coming from… “expose them to the homosexual lifestyle while they’re young” is probably pretty close to your true intention. And then you mask it inside a bigger issue – bullying. That is underhanded and wrong.
No right thinking person condones bullying of any kind. And no right thinking person condones discrimination against any group, including homosexuals.
But there’s a right way and a wrong way to teach values to children, and subversive propaganda is NOT one of them. Shame…
Average age of death for a straight male: 78
Average age of death for a gay male: 37
Every single person reading this message had “A FATHER AND A MOTHER”!! It has ALWAYS been God’s design. I learned some time ago to never again be comfortable with anything “of” this world, but to stay focused on the love Christ poured out on me & how He has made it possible to love others without preconditions.
God does not wish that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.
(By the way, “repentance” means to change the way we think)
Personally I would like to know how this whole LGBT thing gets ‘better’. I was under the impression that constantly rallying for things to defend yourself from people disagreeing with you wasn’t better. A porn star is a joke of an example of a role model on both sides of the fence. Jesus appeals to homosexuals as well as heterosexuals and was never as violent and coarse in language in proving a point, if some one didn’t want to listen that was their right. ( Also want to point out if the parents of the LBGT community had not been heterosexual in a sense, the community would not currently exist. ) The main defense is television is an educational and entertainment tool, not something to be used to school people in things their parents are responsible for. Each parent is responsible for the appointed time in which they choose to tell their children about reproduction and sexual orientation, not television producers and other groups. If you want to make a point be honest, lying wil get you nowhere. Do not get me wrong, I believe tolerance is key in any situation whether a child is homosexual or heterosexual and bullying and hate is always wrong. But trying to turn what you SAY is right using psychological jargon into somebody else’s problem only proves that you are still the person with the problem. Yes this is the twenty first century and all people should be allowed the freedom and comfort to be who they are, but I have yet to see a slot on the job application listing your sexuality. I have yet to see someone denied medical aid, food, or housing based on their sexuality. And if someone of the LGBT community walked into a church they wouldn’t be turned away. ( I ask you to look at the media on the Catholic and Presbyterian churches ) So really, what is the problem? If all your rights are inaliable and there is nothing wrong with you, why preach so much about it being a problem to everyone? If you are so comfortable in yourself and know beyond a shadow of a doubt you and your lifestyle are right, why are you going to such lengths to make it a point? Not every heterosexual is a person of faith, not every one of them believes in marriage, not every one of them wants to have kids or have anything to do with kids. Nothing in your genes makes you anymore special or important than anybody else except God. I am 22 years old, a college student, and very much aware of current political, technological, and entertainment trends. I by no means live under a rock and am a Christian with Jewish roots. Slam me if you like, but you are the one who is wrong and the community that promotes this lifestyle and any constituents therein,whatever their background and views may be, are wrong.
Dan Savage, you are wrong no matter how you look at it. I am a happily married, Christian with Jewish roots, mother of 3. My husband and I raise our children to hate the life (homosexual) and love the person. We never force or use propaganda of any kind for or against anyone.
Our daughers are 22 and 12 our son is 9. You should NEVER use false tactics, “bullying” or any other tactic to PUSH an agenda!! You KNOW better. We saw this lie of an ad and even our 9 year old son looked at us and said, God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!! That is a lot coming from a 9 year old.
May I also say you have the filthiest mouth of anyone I have ever read. To truly prove a point, you need not ever use such language, you only degrade yourself and your agenda. You also, should never point blank “target” ANYONE’S children. Mine or anyone else’s. It has never been your job to parent anyone’s children when you yourself seem to need a parent of some sort to teach and guide you about TRUE Christianity as well as the fact that being homosexual is most definitely a life CHOICE. I am educated enough in biology and genetics to point blank tell you, that homosexuality is NOT about genetics, but the CHOICE you and others make!
You are the BIGGEST BULLY of all to accuse ALL Christians and Heterosexuals of Gay Hate and quite frankly while we are on the subject, Gay means to be happy. Homosexual means to choose the same sex.
I think you have made a point, but unfortunately for you, the point made was that you are a liar, because of your deceitful ad, you are a liar because you say you defend a lifestyle while you yourself are uncomfortable with the lifestyle you have CHOSEN, otherwise you would not be preaching so vehemently or so vulgarly for it, nor would you personally attack or target CHILDREN.
Remember Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of their lifestyle Genesis 18:20 and Genesis 19.
But ALL can be saved even you Dan Savage. Because Jesus loves you that much that He died for you as well John 3:16, and even though I do not agree with what you have done I ask God to forgive you and soften your heart so that you will KNOW HIM!!!
You can be saved and Jesus can help you and all the others who have turned from HIM make a PERMANENT life change that can only come from HIM. All you have to do is ask HIM!! If you want to make a change in this life and this world, make one for the right reasons and without malice. A change for yourself and those who you wish to influence.
I agree completely and 100% with Penny. Shame on you for your spiteful attitude and your blatant use of profanity and bullying. Same-sex or not, you are a vulgar man. No, I do not agree with same-sex lifestyle, but I fail to understand why a lifestyle with such a small percentage–only 2-4% of the entire US population–should go on a rampage to forcefully promote its way of living and ram their ideas down the throats of families–clearly most of whom do not agree with you–particularly elementary school aged children.
My own children at 4th-grade age also knew nothing about sex, either homo- or hetro-. No child should be burdened at such a young age, when there are so many other worthy character points to help a child learn at that age. There is soooo much more to life and being a good person than a sexual orientation. You missed many of those points somewhere along the line. You are nothing but a selfish person who wants his own ideas to be universally accepted so he won’t feel so bad about participating! A MORAL WRONG WILL NEVER–EVER–BE A CIVIL RIGHT!
Please grow up. Accept responsibility for your own choices, and stop trying to get the rest of us to excuse, condone or accept them. Be gay if you want to, but stop trying to force it on others, especially the young children. In the end, YOU WILL LOSE.
You are a hateful man.
Being an extremely elderly and well educated with an attitude of treating others with respect and kindness; no one is perfect, but we are all God’s children….whether you accept that or not….makes no difference….what is, IS.” With that background, through out all time there have been people with different expressions of their sexual needs as a result of their unique physical/mental make-up (designed by nature/or God…if I may be so bold to say.) These people blended into society and took care of their needs and were accepted as respected,good, responsibile contributors to society without being given a “special name” or disclosing their most intimate issues of life. In many families, there was an uncle or an aunt who never married and at some point they chose to co-habitate with a good same sex friend for the rest of their lives. They had the freedom without any kind of criticism to live their lives as they chose. At the present time a member of my family falls into this category.
Knowing and understanding how “it use to be” and the tremendous strides taken to publiclly proclaim such intimate aspects of ones natural nature in regards to sexual needs to the whole world is receiving the “unintended consequences” of such wide revelations and has caused a great deal of confusion and harm in the “minds” of the very young and impressionable. At birth, a person’s natural physical and mental needs and your sexual needs are set, it is not necessary “to educate someone” and family acceptance and support of when the developing child reaches the point when their “own bodies” tell them the independent path for their lives, whether straight or not. No coming out or labeling; just live your life.Now if a young impressionable person is introduced to knowledge about which they are too immature and young to understand the ramifications of their CHOICE based on what he/she has learned at a young age to be gay/lesbian by an educational choice and not by waiting until that point of development of the body that tells all of us…what path to take; then this person is set up for never really knowing wheather he/she is strait or gay because it was “education” and not genes that made him/her make a choice. It is in this regard, the well intentioned, hungry for public and political recognition, homosexual groups have done themselves great harm and destroyed lives (put them on couches of shrinks). Once a person has publically “labeled themselves” even if it turns out to be a mistake, how can they go “back”. This “never-never land” is probably what creates so many expressions (bi, cross dresser, etc.)of the gay/lesbian life style.
Mr. Savage, though well intentioned, has to be very careful when playing “with the developing minds and bodies of the young.” It is hard enough for a mother and father to carefully mentor and protect their children until that time when they are mature enough to make their own decision and reap the consequences of those decisions. My personal opinion…just mine…is that the whole homosexual movement has shot itself in the foot by the insensitive, and power grabbing with government support, recruiting young children to hopefully add to the numbers for “votes” especially ignoring the parents roll in the lives of children. For all concerned, I wish it could be the way it was when Uncle Charlie and Sam lived together and Aunt Rebecca and Helen lived together and enjoyed wonderful happy lives surrounded by family and friends.
God says “NO!” to the homosexual lifestyle. You may justify it in your mind and sexual perverted fantasies but God made man and woman to have a relationship. Homosexuality is a choice and unnatural (Romans 1:18-32) and detestable to God (Leviticus 18:22). No woman should wear men’s clothes, and no man wear woman’s clothes. (Deuteronomy 22:5). You need to live according to God and Christ, not your own understanding. Don’t run with the world, walk with God. Homosexuals do not have eternal life and will see only death.
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so, it’s ok to call others names? hard to get on the side of someone who is worse than those they knock. I distinctly heard the flake call those who diasagree with him Hicks……..I hate your lifestyle, it’s disgusting. I’m not homosexual, altho’ your trick is to say those who are sickened by perversion are themselves homosexual. I’m not afraid of you, I’m nauseated.
Dan,
Your heart of stone can be replaced with a heart of flesh. You are like a wounded animal; lashing out at everyone who you think is your enemy. I have friends and family members who are homosexuals and who I love dearly. I am a wife, mother, and a believer in Christ Jesus.
As a lover of all people, I have some words of wisdom for you. “Let go of the hate and bitterness that fills your heart, it will put you in an early grave” There are so many people who are physically sick because of unforgiveness; ulcers and stress are just two of the many negative physical manifestations that are produced.
In your current state you can do no good for anyone. “For out of the heart the mouth speaks” The fruits of the Spirit are; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self control. Ask God to reveal himself to you and ask the Lord Jesus Christ to be lord of your life. You will NOT regret it, for with God ALL things are possible.
Love & blessings – Domino
I do not agree with your agenda nor do I condone it.But that being said,People have fought and died so that you could have your opinion.However,they also fought and died so she could have hers.Personally my opinion is such that you are the reason that gays are bullied.Trying to push your perverted lifestyle on a fourth grader is akin to being a pediphile.
This sort of stuff is not winning you any friends. You are the one pushing your stuff on others who really do not want to hear about it, and certainly do not want you to save their kids. There is nothing abnormal about a 4th grader not knowing about sex, whatever your opinion is. Instead of just being a person, you define yourself around who you like to screw. I have never introduced myself as a heterosexual, nor have I ever said that out loud. I resent the damn commercial and I haven’t even seen it. I am sick of hearing about GLBT. You do realize that there is going to be an enormous backlash against all of the GLBT, and the more you shove this down everybody’s throats the worse it is going to be. You can’t force people to like you or consider this acceptable, and it will never survive the test of time. In the thousands of years of human history, it has not survived the light. Knock it off while you are ahead, otherwise you will lose everything.
Dan Savage,
Your article with its hate filled rhetoric and very gross language is exactly why people may look at you and treat you differently. Not because you are gay, but because you are mean, hateful and use vile speech. It is such a shame that you treat people exactly the way you ask not to be treated…you have the golden rule backwards.
Seems to me you could done so much more for your community had you responed nicely to Penny Nance. With this kind of talk you will be shut out and never taken seriously.
By the way, I will discuss this information with my daughter, not you, so please stop bullying us to do it your way.
Saddened,
Jennifer
You, my friend, are an heterophobian moron to think you are some kind of authority on human sexuality and what is right and wrong. Why don’t you take a look at real history, not revised, to discover that civilizations that celebrate deviant sexual behaviour always eventually die.
Your tone is extremely antagonistic towards anyone who does not share your views. You are hateful, intolerant, and excessively hostile to those who disagree with you. It is clearly your wish to offend and insult normal people with your profane language and imagery.
Let me explain the way NORMAL people think (normal people, regardless of their sexual proclivities). We believe that others have a right to their opinions and convictions. We believe in the concept of religious liberty and freedom of conscience. Above all, we believe in CIVIL discourse, not bullying, which is clearly your MO.
I, and millions of normal gay and straight people, think that our sexual preferences are our own. They are not in the public domain, nor should they be. Grow up and stop exposing yourself as a twisted pervert.
I do not let me child watch anything sexual period- my fourth grader also knows nothing about sex. He should not have to. He should be allowed to be a child as long as possible. The pressures of the rest will come all too soon. So i disagree with targeting a group so young. I consider it a slap in the face of my choice on how to rear my child. I monitor what shows he is exposed to and agree that slipping a commercial about sex of ANY kind or condoms etc into a family show time slot is low down. I am sure this post will be deleted from the page or flagged in some way to hide this view point. I am not anti gay. I believe it is not another persons business about each person’s individual sexuality- unless you straight or gay- push your feelings onto others
Dan,
You are typical. I have seen your in-your-face LBGT types for years. You broadcast your sexuality and force people to “tolerate” it. You call us “breeders” homophobes and everything else. The vitriol never ends, yet we are the haters?
Just because you started being a little perv in the 4th grade doesn’t mean my kids will. You have no right to tell my kids anything, much less about sexuality and what they should are should not tolerate. Despicable!
I am not afraid of you, and I am not afraid to fight back, so keep your hateful, disgusting, juvenile garbage away from my family.
Someday, you will self-destruct, short of some miracle. The way you act and react makes that obvious.
May God have Mercy on your soul, mister.
RW
You “sad” people have the totally WRONG IDEA about why LGBT’s are committing suicide!!! Our GOD, who is the “CREATOR OF US ALL”, sent each and everyone of us to this earth with the most perfect plan of true happiness for EVERY CHILD of HIS who would ever be born upon this earth. HIS PLAN was that we “ALL” be HAPPY & SUCCESSFUL throughout our lives…..IF we would HEED HIS PLAN OF HAPPINESS, which could ONLY be achieved by learning of HIM, His plan, and by being OBEDIENT to His Laws! Our bodies, which make up who we “HIS CHILDREN” are, ARE His “MOST PRIZE CREATION”; therefore, the blessing of pro-creating WOULD BE HIS NEXT “MOST PRIZE” creation!!!! Thus, it is HIS PLAN & LAW that a UNION BETWEEN MEN & WOMEN “IS THE ONLY WAY IN WHICH TO KEEP THAT LAW……which brings me to the ENTIRE POINT OF THIS COMMENT…….
His PROMISE TO US ALL (Me & You, my brothers & sisters) CHILDREN OF GOD: “Men are that they might have joy!” AND, “I, THE LORD, am bound when ye do what I say, BUT if YE DO NOT what I say, Ye have NO PROMISE.”
Therefore, the awful suicides which are happening, are a result of His children NOT LIVING HIS LAW AND PLAN OF HAPPINESS. Your CHOICE of lifestyle will ONLY bring about in the end, “SADNESS, AND EVENTUAL DESTRUCTION OF BODY AND SOUL!
RESEARCH HISTORY, and you will see that the fate of any SOUL who engaged in this “CHOICE OF LIFESTYLE” ENDED WITH A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY!!!!!
PLEASE WAKE UP BEFORE THE END COMES………WHICH IS NOW UPON OUR DOORSTEPS!!!
All of you people have no concept of right or wrong. You call this lady hateful names and yet, all she did was voice her opinion. She has the right to raise her child anyway she wants and when her child reaches adulthood he has the right to choose to live how he wants.
Wow. You said it, Dan. You just revealed exactly what the LGBT community is all about. From the homosexual activist’s point of view: Chivalry is dead. So is innocence. And you think you have the right to tell parents how – and how not – to raise their children.
Your violent tirade against a perfectly decent, concerned mother is just one more illustration of exactly why America should be wary of embracing the homosexual agenda. You’re all about acceptance – except that you don’t accept a point of view contrary to yours. You’re all about tolerance – but you refuse to tolerate anyone with moral standards different from yours.
You’ve shown yourself for who you truly are. That is why we will fight you relentlessly, and that is why we will win.
And before you go calling someone else a bigot, perhaps you ought to take a closer look in the mirror.
My fourth grade son knew about gay sex in the fourth grade because he was drug into a field and forcefully raped by an older gay boy. You talk of hateful and abusive behavior causing kids to commit suicide. Well, my wife and I have had our hands full dealing with the psychological trauma caused by the effects of the gay lifestyle. Do I hate the boy who did this? No, I have compassion for him and know that he has been abused by others himself and has his own psychological issues. I pray that you will find freedom from your own demons that drive you to be so hateful towards people who do not agree with your life style choice. May you come to KNOW who Jesus is and find the freedom that He provides.
Mr. Savage, you’re a hypocrite. You stand on your soap box decrying the awful hatred of gay bullying, then almost immediately spiral down into a hate-filled bullying orgy against some lady who wants to have the parental right to expose her kid to certain things in her own timing respected.
There was nothing inflammatory or hate-filled about her response. The only hate I see is coming from you, hypocrite.
And speaking of hypocrisy… OMG the hypocrisy inherent in the entire “intolerant” label simply astounds me. Let me see if I’ve got this straight… you’re yelling and screaming and getting on hate-fueled bully-binges calling people who want to raise their family their own way “intolerant”? Wait, wait… stick with me. Isn’t YOUR view the one that’s intolerant? Why won’t YOU tolerate a different view than your own? You immediately let loose the attack dogs when anyone questions your views, and you have the audacity to call THEM “intolerant”?
I think you need some face-time with the mirror, Savage.
Of course, you’re going to go on to call me another bigoted, intolerant, hateful person, just because I’ve got the balls to call you on the carpet like nobody else apparently is doing.
Tough. Deal with it.
I respect your input, as long as it’s civil and respectful. But your abusive bullying of anyone who doesn’t agree with your lifestyle smacks of the worst kind of hypocrisy and is the epitome of intolerant.
Now… on to your backlash full of the same old, tired, worn-out cliches and characterizations. Let’s have the full-on hatefest again, I welcome it. You only prove my point.
Intolerant, hateful hypocrite.
Nothing is “getting better”, honey,…certainly not you.
you know what really gets me the QUEERS want to make everybody be what they are!!! If there is a kids movie and or family programs like Disney ,American idol these are family programs and you queers have no right to put ads on and or say your way of life is the way to be!!! It will always be an abomination and God cannot bless this life style. No you will not go to hell if you are a Christian as that sin is no worse then any other, but you feel like you have been there is you try to influence a innocent child to your way of life!! Read Mathew 18 as Jesus tells what will happen to the person who hurts one of his little ones. Look what you do in your bedroom is your business don’t care if you have sex with a cobra or elephant but you are not going to influence my children and grand children that is being a Queer is acceptable and honored by God. By the way if you don’t like the word I use then don’t bring your sexual preferences into view and try to poison innocent children!!!! You don’t deserve any more rights then the rest of us because of your sexual preference!!!!
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hateful shits like his mother huh? and “bigot” in the title. You really have a way with words hotshot. You are disgusting. My kids are getting the TRUTH about the abnormal lifestyles. It is entirely wrong that your agenda is on the tube while ours is being buried as much as possible by your funded campaigns. Follow the money trail and see who the real pushers are of this sick style of living. Sorry, but you don’t tell the whole story, you just try to bully people with your shameful language. Go back to the closets and repent, the word abomination applies according to the word of God, who does exist but not based on what you think.
Hate is not just a one way street–just saying.
are these the comments of one insane person or are there really this many insane people reading the portland mercury online? this is so weird…
@Merc staff – Got a trackback to where these crazies are coming from? I think Blogtown might need to pay them a return visit.
We need to place the homosexual society back into the proverbial “closet” where they belong! But no, that would not be the ultimate solution to the very deviant gay lifestyle problem. What REALLY needs to be done is to fully convince all gay/lesbians that there warped sexual tendencies are the result of inverted influence from their parents, NOT from being born that way. Secondly, they all need to get comprehensive Christian counselling to help them become sexually attracted towards members of their opposite sex.
Even nature, herself, tells us that homosexual sex-relationships are abnormal and dysfunctional. We humans are the ONLY member of the animal species that engages in such perverse and deviant behavior! Yet, we should be the most intelligent species.
The truth is, even all homosexual persons have an inate sexual attraction for the personality traits of the opposite sex (that is, masculinity gravitates towards femininity), but they have a “confusion” as to which sex (man or woman) would give him/her that opposite personality. That is, gays believe that they can get the feminine response they long for from other men (not from women); likewise, lesbians believe they can receive the wanted masculine response from other women! This false exchange of perceived responses of masculinity and feminity amongst men and women is rooted in parents where the father is wimpy, passive, and goes along with what the mother demands, and where the mother of same couple is a very domineering, take-charge type of personality, where she “wears-the-pants” of the household. Thus, the son of this family believes that he will find femininity in other men (which he naturally desires), since his father displays this emotion to him. Likewise, their daughter will believe that she will find masculinity within another woman (which she desires), since her mother displays this emotion!
Truly, this is what is wrong with our society! Men, as fathers, need to become REAL MEN, not “pansys”. Women, as mothers, need to look up to their husbands for family guidance. That is how marriage was originally intended. We only have homosexuality because the intended father-mother relationship has become so inverted in many of today’s marriages. This is absolute truth; cannot be refuted!
I’ve just got one THING,and one thing only,to say to “you” Mr…Savage…
You’re awesome, keep up the great work.
Mr. Savage,
I will certainly PRAY for you and others like you who feel that your freedom and rights are to be upheld and preserved when you and your kind think nothing of stepping all over my rights as a Mother but more improtantly as a CHRISTIAN. I had a brother who was gay. Notice I said WAS – HE PASSED AWAY IN 1994 AT THE AGE OF 29 OF AIDS!!! THAT IS WHAT HIS IT GET’S BETTER LIFESTYLE DID FOR HIM. I AM VERY VERY DISTURBED BY NOT ONLY YOUR ATTITUDE BUT YOUR LANGUAGE. I PRAY AMERICAN’S WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS WILL STOP TOLERATING OUR RIGHTS BEING TRAMPLED ALL OVER WHILE THOSE WHO FIND IT FUN TO LIVE IN A CONSTANT LIFE OF SIN AND IMMORALITY HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS IN THE WORLD GIVEN TO THEM.
As I said – I will pray for you and your kind to have your eyes opened and turn to the ONLY ONE WHO CAN GIVE YOU PEACE AND COMFORT AND JOY IN YOUR LIFE – CHRIST.
Geez, Savage–even the animals out in nature are smarter than you. They know enough not to have sex with the same gender. You call people that don’t support your views as intolerant, well….you seem pretty intolerant of “straight” views so I guess that makes you just as bad! Your language could use a little cleaning up, too! Somewhere on the “books” there must be a law that it is unlawful to swear in front of women and children. I know the state I live in does. If my child turned out to be “gay” you’d be the last person I’d seek for help. What an awful attitude you have!
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
you don’t need to talk with fowl language to get your point across. and I would like to see more on ” no bullying” …… and that life! gets better but if you, your child, friend who ever they need to first and for most be in a safe place, and that is hard.
you know what really gets me when someone wants to make everybody be what they are!!! If there is a kids movie and or family programs on; like Disney , American idol these are family programs and you have no right to put ads on and or say your way of life is the way to be!!! God cannot bless this life style. why do feel like you need to influence a innocent child to your way of life!! in Mathew 18 as Jesus tells what will happen to the person who hurts one of his little ones. Look what you do in your bedroom is your business don’t care if you have sex with other adults but you are not going to influence my children and grand children that is acceptable and honored by God. if you don’t like people talking about your sex preferences, then don’t bring your sexual preferences into view and try to poison innocent children!!!! You don’t deserve any more rights then the rest of us because of your sexual preference!!!! just like taking pray out of school that is what this country was based on. so we christians could be bullied out of our way of living!!!! I did as a child feel bullied by my aunt that was gay, and as an adult by others. where are my rights ???? well i am not going to put up with being bullied either!!!
WOW! am I still on planet Earth or did I somehow end up in a galaxy far,far away where people believe that they have the right to tell others that the only way to live their life is to do exactly what the oppressed, judgemental, homophobic (so-called) “Christians” say is “THE RIGHT” way to live?
This stuff that you people are saying is just UNBELIEVABLE!!
I AM a GOD-loving, heterosexual female who happens to believe what Jesus meant when HE
said: Let he among you who has NO SIN cast the first stone”!!!!!
And I am by no means saying that homosexuality is a sin. I am saying that all of you posting comments filled with judgement and hatred against your brothers and sisters, who just happen to be different than YOU, should be ashamed of yourselves for even implying that you know what is right and what is wrong!
Truly, if you believe you know what is right in the eyes of GOD, then you would not be casting stones at ANYONE other than YOURSELF! because YOU are the one who is being un-loving and un-caring towards your fellow human beings.
I do not believe in organized religion and reading your comments just strengthens my reasons…you call yourselves “Christians” and prove yourselves to be anything BUT!
I found this video/project because somebody I know posted the cwfa call to arms. I got this as a response.
“Bullying happens to every kid. Some of which leads to suicide. Very little bullying happens to gays for the fact of that they are gay. To the contrary, being gay has become a “cool” thing for kids to do, thanks to the media. Kids who aren’t mature or have no morals will always be abusive. The Bible tells me that sex before marraige is wrong, whether it be gay or straight. People don’t have “trouble” with their sexuality. They have trouble deciding whether they should sin or not. The Bible tells me that God thinks of homosexuality as an abomination. That being said, He wouldn’t think of something outside of someones ability to control, an abomination. Should anyone be abused for the sins they commit? No. To tell kids that sinning “gets better” with time, is not fair to them. When itgetsbetter.org comes on TV (pun not intended) when my kids are watching, it sends them a message that I believe is morally wrong and detrimental to their wellbeing. God loves homosexuals and the rest of us, all of which sin. That’s why he had a plan to save us. Jesus, the Trinity is impossible to really grasp, but the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one, yet three. So in a weird sense, God decided to send “Himself” to die and rise again for you to live with Him, as His son, forever. When we are saved, that’s when we want to do stuff that pleases God. That’s what the Bible teaches us.”
It is pure irony that the very thing that you are setting before innocent children is absolutely brainwashing and persecuting. The war that you choose to be in is not with any human. It may “get better” here on earth. However, there is a promise, for all of us, that if we choose to do so, there will come a time and place when and where it will get to be the very worst. And, once that very worst day comes, it will last forever. I didn’t make that promise, which is why you will receive no judgement from me. The Good News is that the same One who makes that promise also promises an ‘alternate’ way of living in eternity.
I’m sorry, but I have really difficulty seeing Dan Savage, a man who speculated in print on the flavor of his adopted baby’s genetilia, as a reasonable spokesperson for an ad campaign directed at children.
I wish that I could put this somewhere, but I really can’t. I remember the first time that I was watching that commercial I almost started crying becuase I know that it hasn’t just been hard for me, It has been hard for many of us. I don’t really care if people insult me at school since I am already made fun of for being Latino and having and accent, now let’s add that to being gay. It’s all part of who I am and I wouldn’t change who I am since it’s not harming anyone. When I was in my history Class, I read a comment that went something like “White people are our the God-Chosen people, the black people are lesser than us” I feel like we are going back to that. Although I am not categorizing every person who is against gay rights, since after all, no one thinks the same, I feel like some people are going to always hate just for the sake of feeling superior.
I feel like recently, we’ve been categorized as the lesser people. It’s not exactly the same, and I am sincerly sorry for comparing racism and homophobia since they are both different, but they are similiar in the way that they target people for being different. Back in the day, black people were not allowed to be on TV with black people, or not even in the same public spaces. Although less severe, are we supposed to stand by while people try to put us down for something we can’t control? Homosexuality is not a choice, nor is it a lifestyle, you cannot change more than can you share the color of your skin. It maybe that homosexulity is a gene that has to be “awakened” or it could be that is caused by the enviorment a person lives in during the early stages of their lives, but at the end of the day, it’s not something we can’t change. I am considered gay by society and if I had to put a label on my sexuality, then it’d be gay. But I am so much more than that. I am Juan, a guy who was raised in Colombia seeing children….even my friends starve. I saw people who couldn’t go to school because they had to work in order to just buy a piece of bread. I saw people eating paper and dying of hunger. Although it is all very sad, and somewhat unrelated to what I am trying to send across, it has made me open minded and caring. I saw those children, and I didn’t care if they were dark skinned, or white, or if they were heterosexual or homosexual. All I saw was a society, and the saddest part of it all was that, whatever they were, they were all stuck in the same situation, and some of them even smiled in hopes that things would be better, not only for themselves, but for their community. Now I am here in the United States and I see all these groups who go against anti-gay marriage and are trying to silence an organization that has saved thousands, if not millions, of teenagers lives. Why is it that in a sociey so broken and sad, be much more tolerant and caring than a society that lives well and has everything? I am not trying to shut down anyone’s opinion, since they are entitled to their own, but does it really matter if we are heteresexual of homosexual, at the end of the day, we all are people, we all are different, but what we must do is built a society where hatred is discourage just because a person is different. The United States of America is a great country indeed, but wouldn’t it be greater if we all learned to accept each other and live together in harmony?
I wish that I could put this somewhere, but I really can’t. I remember the first time that I was watching that commercial I almost started crying becuase I know that it hasn’t just been hard for me, It has been hard for many of us. I don’t really care if people insult me at school since I am already made fun of for being Latino and having and accent, now let’s add that to being gay. It’s all part of who I am and I wouldn’t change who I am since it’s not harming anyone. When I was in my history Class, I read a comment that went something like “White people are our the God-Chosen people, the black people are lesser than us” I feel like we are going back to that. Although I am not categorizing every person who is against gay rights, since after all, no one thinks the same, I feel like some people are going to always hate just for the sake of feeling superior.
I feel like recently, we’ve been categorized as the lesser people. It’s not exactly the same, and I am sincerly sorry for comparing racism and homophobia since they are both different, but they are similiar in the way that they target people for being different. Back in the day, black people were not allowed to be on TV with black people, or not even in the same public spaces. Although less severe, are we supposed to stand by while people try to put us down for something we can’t control? Homosexuality is not a choice, nor is it a lifestyle, you cannot change more than can you share the color of your skin. It maybe that homosexulity is a gene that has to be “awakened” or it could be that is caused by the enviorment a person lives in during the early stages of their lives, but at the end of the day, it’s not something we can’t change. I am considered gay by society and if I had to put a label on my sexuality, then it’d be gay. But I am so much more than that. I am Juan, a guy who was raised in Colombia seeing children….even my friends starve. I saw people who couldn’t go to school because they had to work in order to just buy a piece of bread. I saw people eating paper and dying of hunger. Although it is all very sad, and somewhat unrelated to what I am trying to send across, it has made me open minded and caring. I saw those children, and I didn’t care if they were dark skinned, or white, or if they were heterosexual or homosexual. All I saw was a society, and the saddest part of it all was that, whatever they were, they were all stuck in the same situation, and some of them even smiled in hopes that things would be better, not only for themselves, but for their community. Now I am here in the United States and I see all these groups who go against anti-gay marriage and are trying to silence an organization that has saved thousands, if not millions, of teenagers lives. Why is it that in a sociey so broken and sad, be much more tolerant and caring than a society that lives well and has everything? I am not trying to shut down anyone’s opinion, since they are entitled to their own, but does it really matter if we are heteresexual of homosexual, at the end of the day, we all are people, we all are different, but what we must do is built a society where hatred is discourage just because a person is different. The United States of America is a great country indeed, but wouldn’t it be greater if we all learned to accept each other and live together in harmony?
I remember the first time that I was watching the it
get’s better commercial and I almost started crying becuase I know that it hasn’t just been hard for me, It has been hard for many of us. I don’t really care if people insult me since I am already made fun of for being Latino and having and accent, now let’s add that to being gay. It’s all part of who I am and I wouldn’t change who I am since it’s not harming anyone. When I was in my history Class, I read a comment that went something like “White people are our the God-Chosen people, the black people are lesser than us” I feel like we are going back to that. Although I am not categorizing every person who is against gay rights, since after all, no one thinks the same, I feel like some people are going to always hate just for the sake of feeling superior.
I feel like recently, we’ve been categorized as the lesser people. It’s not exactly the same, and I am sincerly sorry for comparing racism and homophobia since they are both different, but they are similiar in the way that they target people for being different. Back in the day, black people were not allowed to be on TV with black people, or not even in the same public spaces. Although less severe, are we supposed to stand by while people try to put us down for something we can’t control? Homosexuality is not a choice, nor is it a lifestyle, you cannot change more than can you share the color of your skin. It maybe that homosexulity is a gene that has to be “awakened” or it could be that is caused by the enviorment a person lives in during the early stages of their lives, but at the end of the day, it’s not something we can’t change. I am considered gay by society and if I had to put a label on my sexuality, then it’d be gay. But I am so much more than that. I am Juan, a guy who wants to help the cure to life threatining diseases someday, or someone who writes songs that changes lives just like “Keep Holding on” By Avril Lavgine did for me, a guy who was raised in Colombia seeing children….even my friends starve. I saw people who couldn’t go to school because they had to work in order to just buy a piece of bread. I saw people eating paper and dying of hunger. Although it is all very sad, and somewhat unrelated to what I am trying to send across, it has made me open minded and caring. I saw those children, and I didn’t care if they were dark skinned, or white, or if they were heterosexual or homosexual. All I saw was a society, and the saddest part of it all was that, whatever they were, they were all stuck in the same situation, and some of them even smiled in hopes that things would be better, not only for themselves, but for their community. Now I am here in the United States and I see all these groups who go against anti-gay marriage and are trying to silence an organization that has saved thousands, if not millions, of teenagers lives.How can a society that is so broken and sad, be much more tolerant and caring than a society that lives well and has everything? I am not trying to shut down anyone’s opinion, since they are entitled to their own, but does it really matter if we are heteresexual of homosexual, at the end of the day, we all are people, we all are different, but what we must do is built a society where hatred is discourage just because a person is different. The United States of America is a great country indeed, but wouldn’t it be greater if we all learned to accept each other and live together in harmony? now All I am asking for a society where a person doesn’t have to be afraid of who he or she is, a society where we can accept each other for who we are. None of us are perfect, and there is no such this as normal, so please help me spread this message across and let people know that it will get better, but we also need other people to help us make it better.
First of all this is my opinion and it may not be suitable for everyone so please ignore it if you find it judgmental, it is not intended to be. This is what I feel as an individual and I believe everyone has the right to express their feelings, and no one has the right to suppress anyone else’s feelings. Everyone should have the right to their own opinion and no one has the right to force their opinion on anyone else. I also want to make clear that my opinion is not meant to throw stones. So please keep an open mind as I would for you. This is not a judgment call just an opinion………..
I feel the ad was misleading, targeting and promoting a certain life style to our youth, it should have addressed the youth with the issue of homosexuality instead of generalizing. Example: If you are being targeted because of your homosexuality, do not take it personally, sometimes even parents like other people have a tendency to judge things they do not understand. Stay strong and remember you are not alone….Everything in time will work itself out, be patient and keep in mind that it is just a matter of time for your turn to be free. We promise -it will get better!
(Encouraging our youth to obtain an education which would allow them to choose what type of employment, or occupation that they desire in order to become successful to support themselves which allows them to choose what location that they would like to live in. Changing location can be the key to their preferred life style. Find the right community with the same values, can be one of the tools of life to create happiness) and success!)
This would have been more effective to address the objective and less promoting a type of life style to a young child. This ad is much like a Pharma ad which promotes a pill for whatever ills you, when in reality it does not solve a problem but creates a new one.
I would like to address another issue in my opinion. This is concerning the negative response to a concerned mother which she has the right to be concern about her child’s exposure to certain content.
Instead of creating a happy and intelligent response to her issue, you were degrading and became a person to whom you state, that you are against. “A bully” the defination of an aggressive person who intimidates or mistreats weaker people especially by name calling. If you want to be treated with respect you should also treat others with respect. I feel that everyone voice should be allowed to be heard without stones being thrown at them. I also believe in allowing our youth to be children while they are children, and let them decide when they want to be exposed with adult issues, and not to shove it in their face before they are ready. Every child has their own speed to grow up, do not rush a child’s innocence to be broken just because yours is over. This innocence is a special time in their life and no one has a right to break it before their time. Let children be children, and let them remain children as long as they want.
No one has a right to force their life style on anyone, and no one has a right to degrade another person choice of their life style. If you do not like to be put down for your point of view you should not put down another people for their point of view.
There is this saying …..We can agree on disagreeing with each other and that is alright.
Please stop all the hate for one another not just stop the hate that you receive, stop the hate that you give out.
I believe in fairness and no one has a right to judge. Everyone has a right to their own point of view. Share your views don’t force your views upon those who want to disagree. Try to educate them with facts and not opinions.
What is right for you may not be right for someone else, and that is ok because you do not live their life, you should tend to your own life. Just like you do not want anyone to control your life style or thinking, shouldn’t you do the same for another?
Let everyone make their own choice .
Live and let Live. God Bless everyone, and remember no one has the right to judge except God.
JUDGE NOT OR BE JUDGED!
Can I agree with both the commercial and the woman blogger? As a mother I understand her feelings of betrayal because I want to introduce and explain to my children about things like homosexual relationships, myself. I don’t want it done by Google or Disney…and also a target audience of kids in grade 4 seems very young. (AND…bullying is wrong period…regardless of the ‘excuse’ given…why not tackle that??) On the other hand, young people committing suicide because they are having difficulties coping with their sexuality is a real problem. I agree that the commercial could have aired at a later time to protect very young children and parental discretion.
IF a conservative does not like homosexuality, s/he doesn’t engage. If a liberal is homosexual, s/he marches in the streets, lobbies for favorable legislation and puts recruiting ads around kid’s shows.
If a conservative wants to have a normal marital relationship and have children, s/he must be vigilant to protect their family from those who would do it harm. A mother protecting her 10 yr old child from ads promoting gay lifestyles is equal to that same mother not wanting her child’s programming to be sponsored by viagra and vaginal itching preparations…If she feels it’s too explicit for that age child, she has a right to voice that concern. Frankly, at age 54, I’m often embarrassed by commercials.
How that engenders such vitreol and hate from the liberal leftist and gays is a mystery…unless they really DO have an agenda and really ARE coming after our kids. In that case; expect parents to protect their families.
The Gay Agenda hard at work on behalf of Satan. Thanks for exposing yourselves I can now convince people of your Satanic agenda with this video. And I will from now on boycott an hathaways or whatever her sorry name is. Disgusting. Homosexuality is an ABOMINATION. Read the King James Bible the only True Bible!! Come to Christ and be saved. Only Christ can save you from this Satanic curse.
Dan Savage is accusing WHOM of hatred? Great balls of fire, after reading his filthy diatribe against Penny Nance, I’m more convinced that this radical homosexual lefty is a predator out to warp the minds and hearts of America’s innocent children.
Savage, you’re a savage. For the homosexual lifestyle, it does NOT get better. It gets worse! And why does it get worse? Because those who deliberately follow that lifestyle choose a path which is consistently, statistically proven to SHORTEN their lives.
Profane, accuse, and squirm all you want. Look at the life expectancies of high density homosexual communities and tell me how they are prospering and surviving over their heterosexual counterparts! You creepy, damned liar! You make me sick, telling the young sexually confused ones that “it gets better!” It does not get better! It gets WORSE! And the reason it gets worse is because you can choose as you please but you CANNOT choose the consequences of those actions!
Think deeply, retract this insidious campaign, otherwise you’ll be sending hundreds of young people to premature deaths!
it could be called ‘itcangetbetter.ORG’…but%20if%20you%20don’t%20change%20your%20behavior%20after%20conducting%20″foolish behavior”%20with%20actions%20of%20the%20same-sex, then%20you’re%20better%20off%20going%20to ‘HopeYouEverSurvive.ORG’. Oh that cancer is so-yummy. Like male-pattern sicknesses of injest another male’s DNA. Or licking the yokes of gooey-aids of females searching/hunting google to find if there’s any cure for their illness that keeps propagating like exponential search results in the growing “victims” of a homosexuald-d-evil the preys upon the children’s minds with no-ability of cure.
Mr. Savage,
Your name fits you well. I will pray for you, it’s sad that you are exactly where the Devil wants you. He is using your body, mind and mouth to promote lewdness and filth! You are a slave to Satan, his puppet.
But God still loves you and died for you. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only son, that whosoever should believe in him, would have everlasting life.” This includes you!