OREGON’S NEW STATEWIDE SMOKING BAN IS JUST WEEKS AWAY FROM TAKING
EFFECT. GOT ANY QUESTIONS?
Wait, there’s a forthcoming smoking ban?
Umm… yes. Don’t you pay attention?
On the other hand, it’s no wonder you’ve forgotten the January 1st
ban is just around the bend. The Oregon State Legislature passed the
smoking ban over a year agoโadding bars, bingo halls, and bowling
lanes to the existing smoke-free workplace lawโwith Governor Ted
Kulongoski signing it on June 26, 2007.
Meanwhile, our neighbors to the north and south have had bans on the
books for ages. California stubbed out smoking in bars back in 1998 and
Washington voters passed a referendum in 2005 that nixed nicotine.
Despite passing well over a year ago, Oregon’s law stipulated that
it wouldn’t take effect until January 1, 2009, so the state could
prepare for any revenue impact the ban might have.
What is this going to do to state revenue?
Short answer: No one’s sure. Though the ban may prompt some people
to give up smoking, the impact on cigarette tax revenue is expected to
be negligible.
If other states are any example, bars’ revenue may fluctuate after
the ban takes effect, but there won’t be a lasting negative impact.
“One thing we know for certain is that if bar revenue dips a little
bit, it comes back up in time,” says Cathryn Cushing, communications
manager for the Health Promotion and Chronic Disease Prevention Section
at Oregon’s Department of Human Services.
However, what state officials are keeping an eye on is lottery
revenue. Gambling on games like video poker tends to go hand in
handโliterallyโwith smoking. The ban’s potential impact is
uncertain: “There aren’t very many states that have video poker” and
have also banned smoking, Cushing points out. This means “we don’t have
enough info to make a projection about how this is going to impact
lottery revenue.”
That said, “We’re expecting [game revenue] to reduce,” says Chuck
Baumann at the Oregon State Lottery. “How marked it is, we don’t know.”
For the state’s last fiscal year, video-based lottery games brought in
$895.1 million to the state, two-thirds of which goes toward education
(the rest is split among economic development, natural resources, and
problem gambling treatment).
Oregon Senior Economist Josh Harwood says the lottery revenue impact
“range could be pretty large,” but the state has come up with a
“reasonable expectation.”
“We’re expecting probably a six percent drop in the initial first
three to six months. And a longer term impact of one to three percent,”
he says. He notes, though, that the state may never be able to sort out
what impact the ban had on revenue. “The economy’s not doing well and
lottery dollars are down anyway.”
Blah, blah, state budget. SNORE! What about ME? What happens on
January 1 at midnight? Is the bar going to yank my ashtray? Will I be
arrested if I keep smoking?
Some bars might yank ashtrays at 12:01 amโit’s up to them,
really. Others will wait until the next day. “We’re probably going to
finish the night out and that’ll be it. Not much we can do,” says a
bartender at the famously smoky Horse Brass Pub on SE Belmont.
Same goes for the Moon and Sixpence in Hollywood: “We’re not going
to run around and make everyone put their cigarettes out” at the stroke
of midnight, says manager and co-owner Mike Marshall.
And no one will be arrested for continuing to smokeโthat night
or ever. “There aren’t going to be any smoking police out patrolling
the city looking for violations,” says Cushing. Local health
departments will enforce the law in a complaint-based system. If
patrons (or neighbors) of a location don’t complain, theoretically the
health department won’t come knocking.
But what if someone does complain?
“When a complaint is filed the first thing we do is communicate with
the business and let them know about the law again in case they were
unaware,” says Cushing. For a second complaint, the health department’s
rep will drop by to talk the business into compliance. “It’s only after
a business is unwilling to comply that there’s a fine.”
The fine is $500 a day (OUCH!), with a $2,000 maximum in a 30-day
period. In extreme cases, the state can “engage in further action if
the situation isn’t remedied eventually,” Cushing says.
So far, no bar has officially announced any plans to be a scofflaw
bastion for smokers. But we might see a few holdouts after January 1.
“There will be stories of people who will defy the law, there always
are,” says Tim Church, director of communications Washington State’s
Department of Health. In that state, “there were situations where
people protested or stood in the middle of the street because they said
it was the only way they could smoke.”
But overall, implementation in Washington went smoothly. “We learned
from other states who had passed laws like this: The biggest amount of
resources we put into education, informing people of what was expected
on them,” he says. The result? “There have been lots of people who have
obeyed the law and did what was asked of them,” Church says.
Fine then, I’ll just go outside. Hmmf.
Good idea. Just be sure to stand at least 10 feet away from doors,
windows, and air intake vents. The new law pushes smokers away from
buildings, to prevent smoke from seeping inside.
And yes, this applies to bars’ patios. A place with a large
deckโlike Rontoms on East Burnside, or the Moon and
Sixpenceโcan carve out a smoking area farther from the door.
Expect smaller outdoor spaces that are close to the buildingโlike
Rotture’s porch, and sidewalk cafรฉsโto be smoke free. (It
could be worse: Washington’s law, which is considered the nation’s
strictest, has a 25-foot rule. In dense parts of the city, this
essentially means the only place far enough from all doors, windows,
and vents is the middle of the street. Might want to wear reflective
clothing.)
Ugh. Where can I smoke?
There are still a few exemptions in the law. Tribal casinos can
allow smoking. Smoke shops and cigar bars can apply for a certification
from the Department of Human Services. And up to 25 percent of a hotel
or motel’s rooms can be smoking rooms.
Plus, you can do what you want at home and in your car, right? This
is America, after all.
What if idiots keep lighting up in or around my
bar/restaurant/downtown rent-a-cop office? Jerkfaces insist on standing
just outside the doorโunder the awning, where there’s shelter
from the rainโto puff away! I’m telling them to move, but they
just won’t! HELP!
Well, you don’t want a $500 fine, so you’d better keep a hose handy.
Smokers hate when their cigs get wet.
Seriously, though, the state’s not out to get anyone. “We are
committed to working with business owners. If there’s a situation where
there’s a recalcitrant person, we can help strategize with that
business owner so we can correct it,” Cushing notes. “We’re not going
to come in guns a-blazing to take care of it.”
At the December 9 meeting of the Downtown Public Safety Action
Committee, business owners got a primer on the new ban from the
Multnomah County Health Department’s Erik Vidstrand. Several responded
to his explanation of the 10-foot rule by expressing concern that
vindictive people would use the law to exact revenge on a business, by
both smoking right at the door and calling in a complaint, in an effort
to get a business fined. (Portland Patrol, Inc.’s John Hren seemed
particularly worried someone would target his rent-a-cop firm, which
has an office just steps from the MAX line. Why so paranoid, John?)
Vidstrand talked the business owners down, and Cushing notes that
revenge smoking is an “extreme example.”
“The chances of that happening are pretty unusual. Most smokers are
pretty willing to be respectful of policies and regulations and they’re
very accustomed to doing so,” she says.
Won’t taverns and bars, once cleansed of that stale smoke, smell
even worse nowโlike old man farts and grease traps?
Uh… were you going to those bars because they smelled good?
There’s some truth here: That stale smoke smell might linger for a
while, unless the bar does something about it.
“We’re going to close down for a few days and tear the carpet out
and put new carpet in,” says Marshall at the Moon and Sixpence.
“Otherwise it’ll still smell like we’ve been smoking in here for 10
years.”
Dots Cafรฉ on SE Clinton would replace the carpet “if the
economy was better,” says manager Kurt Van Vlack (who’s “looking
forward” to the ban). “That was the plan about a year ago.” Now, their
plan is to have the carpets cleaned, as they do every month, and wipe
everything down.
Cushingโif you haven’t noticed, she’s the state’s guru on this
new lawโmakes another point: In places that have already curbed
the cigarette habit, “business owners have found that patrons tend to
order more food when they can smell it.”
How in the world will the Horse Brass get the nicotine off the
walls? Won’t they need a pressure washer?
“I’m going to make no effort,” says Horse Brass owner Don Younger,
who’s headed up the smoky neighborhood icon for 32 years. He says the
state will have to “pass another law” to make him change the carpets or
clean the smoke-stained walls.
“The whole dynamic of the place is going to change,” he says. “The
heart and soul is being removed, surgically. The State of Oregon runs
my business now.”
How do cigarettes make up the heart and soul of a beer pub? “Not for
me, for my customers,” Younger explains. “The two just go together, and
we’re a smoking bar. There’s a real sense of community in my bar. It’s
built around the smokers. The community, which has been there for 32
years, will disappear overnight.” He’s not concerned they’ll go out of
businessโthough he thinks other businesses will. “The corner bar
has lost their personality,” he says. “The casualty is always the
corner bar.”
That said, he has no plans to protest the law. “It’s useless,” he
says. The state’s “smarter than we are. They’re bigger than us.”
As you know, I hate children. So is my favorite bar going to be
overrun by minors now that the air is clear?
There are lots of Oregon Liquor Control Commission (OLCC)-licensed
establishments in town where minors are allowed until a certain time,
like 10 pm. And in many of those places, once the kids are kicked out,
the ashtrays emerge. So, the thinking goes, if the ashtrays are now in
the dumpster, can the kids stay all night?
Nope, says the OLCC’s Christie Scott. The OLCC doesn’t base their
“minor posting” decisionsโthe rules that allow minors access to
some places that allow drinkingโon the smoking status of a
space.
The confusion arises from the current incarnation of the smoke-free
workplace law, which exempts restaurants, bars, and taverns “posted as
off limits to minors under rules adopted by the [OLCC].” In other
words, once the kids leftโor in the spaces where the kids were
never allowedโthose restaurants, bars, and taverns were exempted
from the current law.
The new law just dumps those exemptions, so kids or no kids, there’s
no smoking. But the OLCC’s minor postings won’t change.
Ah, fuck it. I should just quit smoking.
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Rotture’s porch was such a great place to smoke and look out over the city, pretending to be pondering something weighty.
Isn’t there some kind of stipulation that says smoking is allowed in “private clubs?” So the Horse Brass, for example, could change over to be a member’s only establishment, apply at the door, $5 for a year’s membership, smoke all you want? Sort of thing?
oohh, that’s too bad. this is for all you inconsiderate jerk-offs who have been sticking your shit in my face all these years. hope you like it outside.
I’m not really sure how I feel about this ban, but I do know that it will be nice to come home after a night of drinking and not smell like eighteen different ashtrays.
Is there any point where the responsibility is on the individuals who insist on smoking near doorways? It seems like businesses are being held exclusively responsible.
Ah yes. The religious wackos passed their alcohol prohibition a century ago, and it backfired. Now, wrapped in the cloak of protecting our health and souls again, the very same church groups have formed non-profit groups to get tobacco banned everywhere. It is a scam engineered by the religious right wing who believe smoking is a sin, and most people are blind to following the money trail to the anti-smoking campaigns to discover that these religious wackos are behind it. Sad really.
This is lame… I can see this happening in a city like philadelphia because all the bars there were smoking… But here there are plenty of none smoking bars to balance out the smoking bars… so the consumers have plenty of options…. This law is infringing on personal freedom and our right to choose…
It should be a choice of the owner of the establishment…
We are not a free country we any more… it is a shame all those people died in the war against Britain for freedom… they died for no reason…
Oregon is weird… we all the right for choose to live (assisted suicide) and yet we out law smoking?
– Signed a non smoker!
oh well…looks like it’ll be easier to step outside to light up a blunt. “where ya goin guys?” “out to ‘SMOKE’ ” nice.
It saddens me to see Don Youngers attitude towards the ban. Bars like his and the Triple Nickel have long been on lists of non-smokers to visit once the ban is enacted.
Rather than embrace the ban as a way to attract a new clientele, Don has chosen to take an angry and combative approach, signaling a disdain for non-smokers.
As a pub loving, soccer-watching young male with disposable income to burn, I’m a prime target for bars like his. Sadly, you won’t be getting any of my business, Don.
I’ll be at the Triple Nickel.
“There aren’t going to be any smoking police out patrolling the city looking for violations,” says Cushing.
Meaning: it’s up to us non-smokers and bar owners to assure that cancer spreading smokers abide by the law. So happy this law is finally coming home.
We’ll miss you, Joba.
“The State of Oregon runs my business now.”
Oh brother! Apparently Don’s upset that he doesn’t own his barbacks’ lungs anymore. Tough shit, buddy…
This law should have happened years ago.
Stick it up your ass Male Receptionist. There are plenty of non-smoking places to go. Why not let the market decide?
Stick it up your assface Male Receptionist. There are plenty of non-smoking establishments to patronize. Why not let the market decide this issue?
Here’s to fixing what ain’t broke.
it’s pretty silly that you can’t even smoke in an outside patio. so a little smoke “seeps in” around the edges… big deal. why is compromise such a stranger around here?
“why is compromise such a stranger around here?”
I wonder that too. The comments here makes me believe its not a health issue at all. Rather more of a “why doesn’t the Brass Horse owner care about me!” and “why can’t I get what I want everywhere”. I don’t expect every business to care about me and my preferences. That’s a monoculture and it’s anathema to having choices. My preferences may change over time, but oops I banned everything I didnt like.
I wonder, did they even debate other options? Like high-powered air filters as an alternative to a ban? Does that reduce the health risk? What about smoke-less cigarettes? Are those allowed? Where’s the science about secondhand smoke that “seeps” in through the cracks? And is that worse than car exhaust or pollution in general? Does moving smokers to a public sidewalk reduce the exposure of involuntary secondhand smoke? Or would a smoking area be more effective? Will more adults now smoke at home near children who cant choose to leave the area?
Seriously, lets not pretend it’s about health if its really just a majorities preference winning over a minorities by fiat. Any maybe the majority could keep the gloating to a minimum and remember you’re talking about hating your neighbors.
Woah! Some TRULY self rightous comments! I had to remind myself that this was not another article on our HUGE PORTLAND SEX SCANDAL!
“This bar owner still wishes he could give his smoking customers a place to go! I will boycot his now smoke free bar on the principal that he still supports those customers!” If you won’t take your young male disposable ass income there anyway- why the need to type it out? What a tool.
“What about DOORS! One could open and let in smoke for a moment because someone OUTDSIDE is too close!”
Sure, let’s ignore the fact that cars, buses, and industry in general FILLS the air with impurties, Let’s worry about the CRIMINALITY of the insidious ‘near the door smokers’ and the pub owners who may or may not approve! Perhaps you should move to the wilderness far far away from such a tolerant and industrialized city.
“I went to places where smoking was common, and people SMOKED! I took it VERY personally- You all must have HATED my non-smoking ass! But now you have to go home or freeze! It’s my personal pleasure to see you lose something!” Sounds like your tragic victimization is largely a result of the environments you put yourself in.
“We non-smokers and bar owners must band together and stand up to the disease spreaders!” You! YOU are my FAVORITE! Tell me where your bar is, and I and other evil, disease spreading assasins will stay away from your frightening vigilante justice! But if you DO NOT own such a bar, I invite you out to the middle of the street. It’s a public space where you can be your OWN Sheriff! You can share with smokers not only your personal happiness that the places that welcomed them are no longer able to do so, you can ALSO remind them you consider them merchants of DEATH! Please post here on the website when you do so. Both my smoking and non-smoking friends will PAY to see your pristine, rightous lungs and boney finger identify the “killers” and CALL THEM OUT!
The world’s a tough place, with so many serious problems. But as adult humans we must take responsiblity for where we go, and what we do. No one forces adults to drink, smoke, get pierced, get a tatoo or listen to loud music- all arguably bad for someone, or EVERYONE. But we get to choose. We can do all of it or none of it.
Maybe these super-human’s comments would look less pathetic in Supior Persons Digest or the New England Journal of Medicine. This is The Mercury, and I respect it for being honest, edgey and NOT sanitized for anyones “protection”. Here the sanctimonious whining just comes across as petty, wannabe victimhood- Out of touch and out of place.