The Majority of America Supports Obama’s Jobs Bill

1. “That’s the thing about Democrats: When people understand what Democrats stand for, a whole lot more people become Democrats.”

   This really only applies to the sympathetic things that Democrats stand for. Or sympathetic things in general. Democrats still support the wars, still support Wall Street, still support a health care system based on forcing us all to buy private insurance, etc etc.

2. ‘But when the legislation’s details are included in a follow-up question — to include the news organizations’ selective reporting in favor of the administration – 63 percent say they favor the bill and 32 percent oppose it.’

3. What selective reporting? These are all objective facts:

   -it would cut payroll taxes
   -fund new road construction
   -extend unemployment benefits
   -it would be paid for by increasing taxes on the wealthy.

   Face it, people want all of these things and poll after poll have demonstrated that. I can’t say I have faith in the public to vote accordingly next year, because people are notoriously bad at voting for things they actually want.

4. Of course people want things but

   a)’people’ are morons
   b) govt spending does not give them those things.

   See how the last $800 billion worked for everyone?

   The wealthy pass on taxes to their consumers, thus hitting poor people

   New roads are temp jobs

   and there’s no more $ to pay the unemployed

5. “a)’people’ are morons”

   Yourself first of all, obviously. That would explain the rest of your comment anyway.

   “b) govt spending does not give them those things.”

   That’s absurd. Of course government spending provides those things. Unemployment benefits, road construction, what evidence do you have that it does not pay for those?

   “See how the last $800 billion worked for everyone?”

   The point of that $800 billion was merely to stop the economy from going off a cliff. The Republicans made sure that it didn’t do any more than that. And that’s exactly what happened. The economy hasn’t gotten worse, but it hasn’t gotten better.

   “The wealthy pass on taxes to their consumers, thus hitting poor people”

   If that’s how it works, why don’t they pass the tax cuts on to their consumers? Why do they instead hoard that money and use it to buy each other out instead of lowering prices?

   Furthermore, the wealthy were also supposed to create jobs with their tax cuts. So where are all the jobs that the trillion-dollar tax cuts promised us? Last I checked, we had way more jobs before those tax cuts.

   “New roads are temp jobs “

   So? I thought you would like the idea of no permanent government jobs. The idea is to put people to work, giving them money to spend, which stimulates the economy. The economy is a massive feedback mechanism. You feed it enough and it can sustain itself. At least until someone wrecks it like the bankers did.

   Hire a bunch of temp workers with government money, those temp workers spend it and stimulate the economy, creating private jobs. When the temp jobs go away the private jobs sustain themselves, and it’s easier for the temp workers to find private, permanent work.

   Along with unemployment benefits, this is provides the highest rate of return in terms of increased economic growth and increased tax revenues – far more than tax cuts, which provides one of the worst rates of return of the options available, and (surprise!) less tax revenues.

   “and there’s no more $ to pay the unemployed”

   If you give people jobs, you don’t have to pay them unemployment benefits. See how that works?

   It’s better to pay people to work than to pay them for being out of work. People want to work. They didn’t suddenly all become lazy at the same time when the economy crashed, they were laid off. This would have happened no matter how productive they were. They aren’t lazy, there aren’t enough jobs to go around.

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